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I'm in Club 1441.  When we send email to members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org it does not reach the membership.  Any advice?
I see email from you hitting the server
Aug 17 00:05:49 toastmastersclubs sendmail[1089518]: 67H05mnp1089518: from=<daveytm1441@gmail.com>, size=5731, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<CAHzUsTbeDtKyXtfbEV-tZUdWK4XR5RBr=f9XoaC1GQeJgd7f+w@mail.gmail.com>, proto=ESMTPS, daemon=MTA, relay=mail-pg1-f172.google.com [209.85.215.172] 

Aug 17 00:05:52 toastmastersclubs sendmail[1089529]: 67H05mnp1089518: to=|/usr/local/bin/fth4-inbound, ctladdr=<members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org> (8/0), delay=00:00:03, xdelay=00:00:03, mailer=prog, pri=36458, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent

And I can see your email to your members being sent as well.
Check your spam box.

Last edited 17 Aug 2026, 5:39 a.m. by Brian

Thank you,

Brian McDonald DTM
Silver and Wiser Online Toastmasters Club #777940

Technical Support Consultant and Developer for FreeToastHost
Spam box is the first place I looked!  Does it go to the person who sent it (I don't see why it wouldn't, but...)?  Can you tell me the number of messages sent? 

Other club officers have reported this problem, it's not just me.
here is one from chuck to members and he also received the email

SUCCESS (User Email) Sun 2026/08/02 19:16:25 UTC Club:[1441] From:[chuck ballinger <bukchalngr@comcast.net> ()] To:[members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org <bukchalngr@comcast.net>] CC:[] Subject:[correction - dog path rules]SUCCESS (User Email) Sun 2026/08/02 19:16:27 UTC Club:[1441] From:[chuck ballinger <bukchalngr@comcast.net> ()] To:[members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org <roybenson55@yahoo.com>] CC:[] Subject:[correction - dog path rules]
SUCCESS (User Email) Sun 2026/08/02 19:16:26 UTC Club:[1441] From:[chuck ballinger <bukchalngr@comcast.net> ()] To:[members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org <carrieknight33@gmail.com>] CC:[] Subject:[correction - dog path rules]
SUCCESS (User Email) Sun 2026/08/02 19:16:26 UTC Club:[1441] From:[chuck ballinger <bukchalngr@comcast.net> ()] To:[members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org <berrnnie@hotmail.com>] CC:[] Subject:[correction - dog path rules]
SUCCESS (User Email) Sun 2026/08/02 19:16:26 UTC Club:[1441] From:[chuck ballinger <bukchalngr@comcast.net> ()] To:[members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org <teresedris@yahoo.com>] CC:[] Subject:[correction - dog path rules]
SUCCESS (User Email) Sun 2026/08/02 19:16:26 UTC Club:[1441] From:[chuck ballinger <bukchalngr@comcast.net> ()] To:[members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org <lillyfu@gmail.com>] CC:[] Subject:[correction - dog path rules]
SUCCESS (User Email) Sun 2026/08/02 19:16:25 UTC Club:[1441] From:[chuck ballinger <bukchalngr@comcast.net> ()] To:[members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org <jasonnau@gmail.com>] CC:[] Subject:[correction - dog path rules]
SUCCESS (User Email) Sun 2026/08/02 19:16:25 UTC Club:[1441] From:[chuck ballinger <bukchalngr@comcast.net> ()] To:[members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org <silviabuckley@yahoo.com>] CC:[] Subject:[correction - dog path rules]
SUCCESS (User Email) Sun 2026/08/02 19:16:25 UTC Club:[1441] From:[chuck ballinger <bukchalngr@comcast.net> ()] To:[members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org <bukchalngr@comcast.net>] CC:[] Subject:[correction - dog path rules]
SUCCESS (User Email) Sun 2026/08/02 19:16:25 UTC Club:[1441] From:[chuck ballinger <bukchalngr@comcast.net> ()] To:[members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org <teresaaronoff@gmail.com>] CC:[] Subject:[correction - dog path rules]
SUCCESS (User Email) Sun 2026/08/02 19:16:24 UTC Club:[1441] From:[chuck ballinger <bukchalngr@comcast.net> ()] To:[members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org <sperepechenov@inbox.ru>] CC:[] Subject:[correction - dog path rules]
SUCCESS (User Email) Sun 2026/08/02 19:16:24 UTC Club:[1441] From:[chuck ballinger <bukchalngr@comcast.net> ()] To:[members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org <pamelarodort@gmail.com>] CC:[] Subject:[correction - dog path rules]
SUCCESS (User Email) Sun 2026/08/02 19:16:24 UTC Club:[1441] From:[chuck ballinger <bukchalngr@comcast.net> ()] To:[members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org <lorabel.trias@gmail.com>] CC:[] Subject:[correction - dog path rules]
SUCCESS (User Email) Sun 2026/08/02 19:16:23 UTC Club:[1441] From:[chuck ballinger <bukchalngr@comcast.net> ()] To:[members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org <elistaton@gmail.com>] CC:[] Subject:[correction - dog path rules]
SUCCESS (User Email) Sun 2026/08/02 19:15:51 UTC Club:[1441] From:[chuck ballinger <bukchalngr@comcast.net> ()] To:[members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org <margauxjoy@denador.com>] CC:[] Subject:[correction - dog path rules]
SUCCESS (User Email) Sun 2026/08/02 19:15:51 UTC Club:[1441] From:[chuck ballinger <bukchalngr@comcast.net> ()] To:[members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org <datnow@gmail.com>] CC:[] Subject:[correction - dog path rules]
SUCCESS (User Email) Sun 2026/08/02 19:15:51 UTC Club:[1441] From:[chuck ballinger <bukchalngr@comcast.net> ()] To:[members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org <daniel.alvarado281@gmail.com>] CC:[] Subject:[correction - dog path rules]
SUCCESS (User Email) Sun 2026/08/02 19:15:51 UTC Club:[1441] From:[chuck ballinger <bukchalngr@comcast.net> ()] To:[members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org <dharband@gmail.com>] CC:[] Subject:[correction - dog path rules]
SUCCESS (User Email) Sun 2026/08/02 19:15:51 UTC Club:[1441] From:[chuck ballinger <bukchalngr@comcast.net> ()] To:[members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org <dharband@aol.com>] CC:[] Subject:[correction - dog path rules]
SUCCESS (User Email) Sun 2026/08/02 19:15:50 UTC Club:[1441] From:[chuck ballinger <bukchalngr@comcast.net> ()] To:[members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org <postalgate595@proton.me>] CC:[] Subject:[correction - dog path rules]
SUCCESS (User Email) Sun 2026/08/02 19:15:50 UTC Club:[1441] From:[chuck ballinger <bukchalngr@comcast.net> ()] To:[members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org <christopher.lawrence@comcast.net>] CC:[] Subject:[correction - dog path rules]
SUCCESS (User Email) Sun 2026/08/02 19:15:49 UTC Club:[1441] From:[chuck ballinger <bukchalngr@comcast.net> ()] To:[members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org <danatuttle@gmail.com>] CC:[] Subject:[correction - dog path rules]
SUCCESS (User Email) Sun 2026/08/02 19:15:49 UTC Club:[1441] From:[chuck ballinger <bukchalngr@comcast.net> ()] To:[members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org <portdavis@gmail.com>] CC:[] Subject:[correction - dog path rules]
SUCCESS (User Email) Sun 2026/08/02 19:15:48 UTC Club:[1441] From:[chuck ballinger <bukchalngr@comcast.net> ()] To:[members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org <shane@whitspaintinginc.com>] CC:[] Subject:[correction - dog path rules]
SUCCESS (User Email) Sun 2026/08/02 19:15:48 UTC Club:[1441] From:[chuck ballinger <bukchalngr@comcast.net> ()] To:[members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org <kim.a.neumann@gmail.com>] CC:[] Subject:[correction - dog path rules]
SUCCESS (User Email) Sun 2026/08/02 19:15:47 UTC Club:[1441] From:[chuck ballinger <bukchalngr@comcast.net> ()] To:[members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org <megananngross@gmail.com>] CC:[] Subject:[correction - dog path rules]
SUCCESS (User Email) Sun 2026/08/02 19:15:47 UTC Club:[1441] From:[chuck ballinger <bukchalngr@comcast.net> ()] To:[members-1441@toastmastersclubs.org <kindlymama@gmail.com>] CC:[] Subject:[correction - dog path rules]
Thank you,

Brian McDonald DTM
Silver and Wiser Online Toastmasters Club #777940

Technical Support Consultant and Developer for FreeToastHost
Hi Brian, thanks for all your help.

I don't know if that's the complete list, but that has 27 records and we have close to 50 members.  Is it possible not all email is going out?
Brian,

When using the members all email, I have noticed that in FTH4 the sender does not get the email but in FTH3 they used too. It has created a bit of confusion in my club.

The sender never receives their own copy. Every outbound copy reuses the sender's original Message-ID verbatim:

8/16 — all 53 copies carried <E06EBD72-CED7-4C1C-AA72-5AC26367F8AE@comcast.net> (sender: bukchalngr@comcast.net)
8/17 — all 53 copies carried <CAHzUsTbeDtKyXtfbEV-tZUdWK4XR5RBr=f9XoaC1GQeJgd7f+w@mail.gmail.com> (sender: daveytm1441@gmail.com)

Gmail suppresses an incoming message whose Message-ID matches one already in the account, including in Sent. So the person sending the broadcast reliably won't see it arrive — and they're usually the first to notice and report it. The 8/17 message was sent to the list with the subject "TESTING Please ignore / delete this email", which suggests the reporter is the person doing the sending. The same mechanism collapses the second copy for the 4 "send to both" members if their two addresses land in one mailbox.

Last edited 18 Aug 2026, 9:44 a.m. by Brian

Thank you,

Brian McDonald DTM
Silver and Wiser Online Toastmasters Club #777940

Technical Support Consultant and Developer for FreeToastHost
I'm not saying this isn't so, but the sender always got the email with FTH 3.  Is there some way for the sender to confirm that the email has been sent?  Or just take it on faith?  Ha ha.
It shows up in the email archive.

If you're not using this feature, I recommend setting it up. You'll find a box for entering an archive email address in Email & Contact Forms.

Peter B
Asheville Speechcrafters
Club 8215

I realize the email archive might not totally solve your problem - sender needs access to it to confirm - but it's better than nothing.

Peter B
Asheville Speechcrafters
Club 8215

Trying something new to try and get around gmail and others not liking receiving their own emails from a different service.

Let me know if it helps.
Thank you,

Brian McDonald DTM
Silver and Wiser Online Toastmasters Club #777940

Technical Support Consultant and Developer for FreeToastHost

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