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Hello,

I noticed you haven't updated the new Pathways Level 1 agenda from the drop down menu on FTH.  When will you be updating?  My club already has several members starting the new path.  It will be hard to track speeches and keep accurate data if that option is not there.

I have added them, but more work will need to be done with this since the new projects are only supposed to be available for TM credit to those people who started their respective paths on or after 10/27/2021.

Also, I need somebody to provide the Project Description and Evaluation Resource PDFs for the 2 new Level 1 projects, so I can get the resource PDF buttons enabled for those projects.  I am assuming that the newly elevated Researching and Presenting project, now Level 3 will have the same Project Description and Evaluation Resource PDF as in Level 1, but if I am incorrect w/ that, somebody please provide the updated PDFs for the L3 project.

Thank you.  Can you send me your email so I can send the project objectives you asked for?

You can just attach them to a forum post.

SteveTheTechie wrote:

You can just attach them to a forum post.
 

Nevermind... it appears that Pam is handling it.   (thx anyway)

A.  Here are the new Pathways Level 1 sequence of speeches:

1.  Ice Breaker
2.  Writing a Speech With Purpose
3.  Introduction to Vocal Variety and Body Language
4.  Evaluation and Feedback - First Speech
5.  Evaluation and Feedback - Second Speech
6.  Evaluation and Feedback - Evaluator

B.  All project objectives and speech evaluation forms in the new level one (+ L3 Researching and Presenting) have brand new published content.  The project objects and evaluation forms are different from the original ones published in 11/2016.  Instead, they are dated 09/2021.  Please make sure you update FTH with the newest published evaluation forms dated 09/2021.

C.  Due to copyright laws, it is best that you or Pam contact Toastmasters directly to access the new documents to upload.

Thank you.

Thanks for the observations that all of the L1 resource materials were updated (new rev dates).   

We were already discussing the appropriate updates, but I do not think we had noticed that all of the L1 rev dates were updated.

I noticed you didn't upload the new ice breaker with the matching new evaluation form from the drop down menu with the word "new."  Was this intentional?

Still sorting some of this out.   Patience please...

Hello.  I noticed there's only the NEW ice breaker option.  What about the OLD ice breaker option for everyone else?  Many Toastmasters received a free Pathways path last year as a gift from TMWHQ.  My club still has members that are launching their second path using the OLD level 1.  The record keeping will be confusing if you don't include the option for the OLD ice breaker.  Can you include both the OLD and NEW ice breakers with their correct evaluation forms back to FTH?  Thank you.

I was the lead Pathways Guide for my district.  I also got 2 free paths at Pathways launch.    I got my DTM via the traditional curriculum and I have not done much w/ Pathways (yet).

I do not think it is realistic to expect us to represent every little nuance and logic that is in Base Camp.  We are not trying to replicate Base Camp, and it is not realistic to expect us to do so--it has a lot of logic and dependencies configured into it that we really just cannot do.  I certainly appreciate that most users seem to prefer to just download the resource files from the FTH server (vs hunting for them in Base Camp), but there is bound to be a practical limit to how much historical project resources that we will keep on the FTH server and provide access to.

Let me discuss whether we should keep both Icebreaker versions with our other team members.

Ok, we discussed it and we are choosing not to keep the old evaluation form accessible.  The Icebreaker is the same project... the evaluation form was just revised to add one additional suggestion.    

Therefore, we are keeping it the way it is now in the project drop-down.

Is it possible to put the OLD Pathways Level 1 first?  Then have the NEW Pathways Level 1 follow?  The majority of members are still on the OLD Pathways Level 1.  Members from my club are incorrectly selecting the NEW Pathways Level 1 projects following the sequence.  It's easier for me to make these corrections from the drop down menu if the OLD preceded the NEW.  Not everyone has an attention to detail.  I'm sure you are aware that many members select Dynamic Leadership as their path because it's the first one listed event though it's not their path.  I always have to go back and fix their mistakes.  Thanks in advance.

I'm not sure that I follow the logic here.  The sequence doesn't matter, the member can do the projects in any sequence, although the recommendations are to do them in the listed sequence in Basecamp. 
Members on the "old" system won't have access to the new projects in L1 in Basecamp.  It is up to them to select the project they're working on in the agenda.  There are popup questions asking them to confirm their eligibility if they choose any of the changed projects.  If they answer them correctly they can only select valid projects.
Soon most of the members working on L1 will be on the new system.