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Problem with Edit This Page, content is not there? 10 years 9 months ago #38258

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The Club Site is 1101858.toastmastersclubs.org/

I've been working on learning how to use Custom Web Pages and created a officer only page for testing called "2014-2015 Club President's message", which I was able to edit and now when I click on "edit this Page" no content shows when I try. The rest of the form is filled out, just no page or source display. This is the second time this has happened and I deleted the other page.

The problem page is 1101858.toastmastersclubs.org/2014-2015_...ident_s_Message.html

What am I doing to mess this up?
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Problem with Edit This Page, content is not there? 10 years 9 months ago #38259

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i was able to write on your new page.

What browser and version are you using?
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Problem with Edit This Page, content is not there? 10 years 9 months ago #38260

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Chrome Version 36.0.1985.125 m
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Problem with Edit This Page, content is not there? 10 years 9 months ago #38261

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I tried clearing the cache and no difference. :(
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Problem with Edit This Page, content is not there? 10 years 9 months ago #38262

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The Club Site is 1101858.toastmastersclubs.org/

I've been working on learning how to use Custom Web Pages and created a officer only page for testing called "2014-2015 Club President's message", which I was able to edit and now when I click on "edit this Page" no content shows when I try. The rest of the form is filled out, just no page or source display. This is the second time this has happened and I deleted the other page.

The problem page is 1101858.toastmastersclubs.org/2014-2015_...ident_s_Message.html

What am I doing to mess this up?


Are you able to edit the page when you go into the Admin Console? Or are you just saying that the Edit This Page link is not working for you?
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Problem with Edit This Page, content is not there? 10 years 9 months ago #38263

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I just updated your page using chrome.
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Problem with Edit This Page, content is not there? 10 years 9 months ago #38266

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I have tried both methods with the same result. Note I can edit other pages without an issue.
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Problem with Edit This Page, content is not there? 10 years 9 months ago #38267

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I just tired it in IE and all it says is "jack be nimble" but I could edit it
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Problem with Edit This Page, content is not there? 10 years 9 months ago #38268

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when I log in as an admin, the editor is blank. When I log in as Elizabeth and as admin at the same time, I see Jack be Nimble and am able to edit.
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Problem with Edit This Page, content is not there? 10 years 9 months ago #38274

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Ok, I am going to do some more in-depth diagnostics on this.

Elizabeth: Your club is in my district (52). You guys are just down the road a bit from me. I am the current system developer.

With that in mind, please tone down the red background... Don't use bright colors for backgrounds. Resist the urge! You are giving Brian good reason to tease me about adding the colored background feature. :lol:

Also, It looks like you are trying to get fancy with the styling tags and divs. Fine, but don't use an ID of content more than once. ID's are intended to be unique for each element, and when you use them in more than one place to identify elements, you effectively create an HTML bug that will slow down your page loads and create problems. If you want to group elements for styling purposes, that is what class names are for. So multiple classes of content is ok, multiple ids of content is not.

Ok, I will be back here in a bit. I need to pull your page info from our db with my tools and take a look at what is going on with the president's message page.
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Problem with Edit This Page, content is not there? 10 years 9 months ago #38277

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Ok, the issue with this is that you are using an ID of content.

It turns out that I use that ID for the page content that goes into the editor. So, what we have here is a name clash.

If you use identifiers, class names, and/or scripts, you have to contend with the possibility that you may clash with the ones that I already am using in the system. You should always use a prefix for those to prevent a name clash.

I will probably implement an internal prefix also, in the future, but frankly most clubs are not doing as much HTML styling as you are, and it would be a major undertaking for me to go back and change all the identifiers.

In this instance, I changed my identifier, but frankly I really need to put a higher priority on system names and identifiers than on ones used by clubs. I have 10,000+ clubs/districts depending on me to make the system work well, so if I have to change my identifiers every time a club clashes with one of the ones used in the system, then that is just not a workable situation.

It turns out that there is also some interaction between your styling and the Edit This Page link... not sure what that is about (yet). In the next update, the Edit This Page link is more isolated, but in this version some interactions are possible.

If you click the Reload link at the bottom of your website, you should find that the link to edit that page works now. Let me know if it does not.
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Problem with Edit This Page, content is not there? 10 years 9 months ago #38283

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OK, now I feel pretty guilty :unsure: Steve, I guess at least you know and I'll be more careful. I was seeing how the editor managed things and was not being very thoughtful. Thank you for figuring it out!

:evil: I did knock the red down in the site.

Everything worked fine this morning. Thank you again!
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Problem with Edit This Page, content is not there? 10 years 9 months ago #38284

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Have your read the TI branding instructions for websites?

www.toastmasters.org/brandportal

and the Branding manual?
www.toastmasters.org/brandmanual
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