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#Sequence Using the *.* Feature on the Meeting Agendas 5 years 10 months ago #69817

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On our agenda, we have 3 different speech evaluators - *EVALUATOR #1*, *EVALUATOR #2*, and *EVALUATOR #3). We are trying to use the *.* feature, in order for the agenda to automatically print the member's name on subsequent occasions. When we do that, the numbers change from 1, 2, and 3, to 4, 5, and 6, when we create the subsequent agenda item. Can you tell me how to make the program repeat the original names on the subsequent agenda items?
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#Sequence Using the *.* Feature on the Meeting Agendas 5 years 10 months ago #69853

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what you are trying to do is not directly supported... sorry

You may be able to get this to work the way you want if you disable the automatic numbering, but no guarantees. I am not expending any further effort to make the automatic renumbering handle all the weird edge cases in agendas. If you do not like the way the automatic renumbering feature works, then don't use it.
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#Sequence Using the *.* Feature on the Meeting Agendas 5 years 10 months ago #69884

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We have the same problem. It is easily rectified by removing the automatic numbering symbol (#) then the * * will allow the names to ripple through.
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#Sequence Using the *.* Feature on the Meeting Agendas 5 years 10 months ago #70031

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Can you please elaborate on how to implement the solution? I'm not understanding what the asterisks have to do with it. This used to work and now doesn't.

Instructions state: Roles requiring more than one member should include the "#" followed by a number, so the system will treat this as the same role in the role reports. Example, "Speaker #1", and "Speaker #2".

What I'm understanding if I read through the snarkiness is that this only works if the numbered role is listed once in the agenda. That breaks pretty much all of our agendas. And if I "fix" it, then that breaks all of the role reporting.
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#Sequence Using the *.* Feature on the Meeting Agendas 5 years 9 months ago #70288

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If you want to use the same role more than once on the agenda it needs to be between asterisks so that the name ripples through for every occurrence. If you use the auto numbering i.e. #1 and so on, it will renumber each duplicate occurrence. Removing the # prevents the auto renumbering. The role reports show the item once. I hope this helps.
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#Sequence Using the *.* Feature on the Meeting Agendas 5 years 9 months ago #70333

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I have made some updates to this feature to (hopefully) allow it to work well for more complex agendas.

In addition to supporting multiple occurrences of a numbered role or multiple "keyworded" occurrences of a numbered role (e.g., *Evaluator #1* Gives their Evaluation), it should also be able to handle more complex agenda items where it contains both a the keyworded numbred role and a reference to a numbered role in a different agenda item.

For example,
*Evaluator #1* Gives their Evaluation of Speaker #1

The askerisks make this agenda item tied to the role "Evaluator #1". However, the additional reference to "Speaker #1" should also get renumbered if you were to reorder the Speakers. For example, if you moved the current Speaker #1 to the Speaker #2 slot, you should find that the Speaker #1 reference in this agenda item also gets updated.

This is an example of what I am referring to as a "complex" agenda item for this feature... multiple numbered roles referenced in a single agenda item.

For future reference, you should always consider trying out the renumbering on a copy of your agendas that you really do not care about. I have tried to make this feature handle a number of edge use cases that I never expected to support, but for every feature I come up with to support a variety of use cases, somebody always seems to find a way to break my code. :lol: It is a good thing I like an intellectual challenge.

Remember, you are not obligated to use this feature... you can shut it off if it is not working as you expect.
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