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Again, long time GOOD email address no longer being allowed through FTH 5 years 1 day ago #79171

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I am back again, unfortunately.
I posted this in the past
support.toastmastersclubs.org/2011-10-23...-allowed-through-fth
and thought that you had solved the problem.

This problem has recurred at theEPIC FAIL of times for us.

I have long been the Admin of he club website for almost all of the lats decade, actually.

And I am the company owner of webhost of my server using emails that your system is once again blocking. Under no circumstances am I spamming your site, as your reply to the previous thought.

Due to a crisis of che coronovirus matter, our club lost its venue the night before a meeting and I sent out an email to officers to plan a meeting using the FTH system. The FTH system failed. My email did not get to the officers in this crisis.

I sent an email from
This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
to
This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it..
and it came back as failed mail.

My techs looked into the reports of the failed mail. They sent me this reply:
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I have checked and it appears that the MX records for toastmastersclubs.org point to the IP 50.19.253.65.
This IP seems to be unreachable, the ping is not going through.
This would be the reason the emails do this domain do not work. I would suggest checking from their end to see why their IP is unreachable.
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I ask you please once and for al to permanently WHITELIST the address
This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
for FTH site of
Woodfords Toastmasters Club #817

Thank you.

In the meantime, I am forced to train our members to stop trusting and replying on the FTH system so that we can work through the coronavirus crisis and make sure we still can keep a club to exist..

Your immediate solution will certaily be appreciated.

Thank you for understanding the cirisis nature of this issue.

-Mark !!
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Woodfords Toastmasters #816
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Again, long time GOOD email address no longer being allowed through FTH 5 years 1 day ago #79175

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1) your mail server 67.227.221.50 is very slow to respond

2) We are not blocking your mail server IP 67.227.221.50, in fact it is in our exception list to force allow. The rest of the datacenter remains blocked.

from the server I can ping your server IP

PING 67.227.221.50 (67.227.221.50) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 67.227.221.50: icmp_seq=1 ttl=49 time=22.9 ms
64 bytes from 67.227.221.50: icmp_seq=2 ttl=49 time=22.8 ms
64 bytes from 67.227.221.50: icmp_seq=3 ttl=49 time=22.7 ms
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Again, long time GOOD email address no longer being allowed through FTH 5 years 11 hours ago #79183

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From our end, this is what we see:

My traceroute [v0.85]
host.thestandardbearer.com (0.0.0.0) Sun Mar 15 15:28:22 2020
Keys: Help Display mode Restart statistics Order of fields quit
Packets Pings
Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev
1. lw-dc3-dist15-vlan906.rtr.liquidweb.com 0.0% 10 0.7 0.8 0.6 1.7 0.0
2. lw-dc3-core2-po69.rtr.liquidweb.com 0.0% 10 1.1 1.1 1.0 1.2 0.0
3. lw-ash-border1.rtr.liquidweb.com 0.0% 10 22.4 22.3 22.2 22.5 0.0
4. equinix02-iad2.amazon.com 0.0% 10 22.0 22.0 21.9 22.8 0.0
5. 54.239.111.232 0.0% 10 42.3 39.6 28.3 46.9 6.1
6. ???

Something is wrong, for sure.

What do you make of this?

-Mark Henkel
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Again, long time GOOD email address no longer being allowed through FTH 5 years 10 hours ago #79186

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our server does not accept pings or traceroute, used by hackers for DDOS attacks.

from your mail server
telnet toastmastersclubs.org 25
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Again, long time GOOD email address no longer being allowed through FTH 5 years 7 hours ago #79188

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T8s is the response of techs to your latest reply top use telnet:
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Yep, just tried that. Unfortunately, still nothing. It absolutely refused to respond both on and off the server.
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-Mark @!!
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Again, long time GOOD email address no longer being allowed through FTH 5 years 7 hours ago #79190

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Try it now, let me know if it works. I want to see what IP it actually comes from.
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Again, long time GOOD email address no longer being allowed through FTH 4 years 11 months ago #79195

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The reply I got back was this:
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Nope, still not responding.
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Again, long time GOOD email address no longer being allowed through FTH 4 years 11 months ago #79196

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Don't know how they are checking but the server can send you email.

SUCCESS (Form Email) Mon 2020/03/16 12:28:24 UTC Club:[816] From:["Toastmasters Club 816 on behalf of Admin" <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>] To:[This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.] CC:[] Subject:[checking email connectivity]

Mar 16 12:28:25 toastmastersclubs sendmail[23085]: 02GCSO06023081: to=<This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>, ctladdr=<This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.> (501/502), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=120798, relay=markhenkelspeaker.com. [67.227.221.50], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK id=1jDor3-000F4a-4W)
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Again, long time GOOD email address no longer being allowed through FTH 4 years 11 months ago #79198

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The problem is that when I email the FTH mass-lists, your server does not get it, and it comes back to me as FAILED mail.

I got your test email this morning, but when I replied, it failed and came back as faiuled mail again.

-Mark !!
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Again, long time GOOD email address no longer being allowed through FTH 4 years 11 months ago #79200

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Try the following:
Send a test email to vpe-816@toastmastersclubs.org
IMPORTANT: Put {{trace}} at the very beginning of the subject line.
You should get an email trace file (straight text) back if the email was at all processed by the fth email system.
Assuming you get that, post the contents here.

{{trace}} is a diagnostics flag.
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Again, long time GOOD email address no longer being allowed through FTH 4 years 11 months ago #79201

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Please post the raw email headers from the bounced email.
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Again, long time GOOD email address no longer being allowed through FTH 4 years 11 months ago #79215

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I have sent an email to that address but have not received anything back YET.
If I do, I wlil let you know.
Thanks.
-Mark !!
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Again, long time GOOD email address no longer being allowed through FTH 4 years 11 months ago #79216

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The email DID now come back as failed mail. Here is the solurce code of the failed mail that came back:
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Return-Path: <>
Delivered-To: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Received: from host.thestandardbearer.com
by host.thestandardbearer.com with LMTP
id 3DLjOBCncl7rFwEA8EUv2Q
(envelope-from <>)
for <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>; Wed, 18 Mar 2020 18:56:16 -0400
Return-path: <>
Envelope-to: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Delivery-date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 18:56:16 -0400
Received: from mailnull by host.thestandardbearer.com with local (Exim 4.93)
id 1jEhbk-000IfB-TK
for This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.; Wed, 18 Mar 2020 18:56:16 -0400
X-Failed-Recipients: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Auto-Submitted: auto-replied
From: Mail Delivery System <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
To: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
References: <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary=1584572176-eximdsn-1032354225
MIME-Version: 1.0
Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
Message-Id: <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 18:56:16 -0400

--1584572176-eximdsn-1032354225
Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
retry timeout exceeded

--1584572176-eximdsn-1032354225
Content-type: message/delivery-status

Reporting-MTA: dns; host.thestandardbearer.com

Action: failed
Final-Recipient: rfc822;This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Status: 5.0.0

--1584572176-eximdsn-1032354225
Content-type: message/rfc822

Return-path: <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
Received: from [::1] (port=55676 helo=host.thestandardbearer.com)
by host.thestandardbearer.com with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256
(Exim 4.93)
(envelope-from <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>)
id 1jEhZh-000Ib9-Fe
for This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.; Wed, 18 Mar 2020 18:54:09 -0400
Received: from [72.224.236.203] ([72.224.236.203]) by
www.markhenkelspeaker.com (Horde Framework) with HTTPS; Wed, 18 Mar 2020
18:54:09 -0400
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 18:54:09 -0400
Message-ID: <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
From: Mark Henkel Speaker =?utf-8?b?4oSi?= <This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.>
To: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Subject: {{trace}}
User-Agent: Horde Application Framework 5
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; DelSp=Yes
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Disposition: inline


Test 6:54pm ET Wednesday 2020-03-18


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Again, long time GOOD email address no longer being allowed through FTH 4 years 11 months ago #79222

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I see the following, but nothing in our list server log... looks like the email never got to our list server to do the expansion from the vpe- address. :?
/var/log/maillog ...
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Mar 16 12:28:25 toastmastersclubs sendmail[23085]: 02GCSO06023081: to=<tm@markhenkelspeaker.com>, ctladdr=<server@toastmastersclubs.org> (501/502), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=120798, relay=markhenkelspeaker.com. [67.227.221.50], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK id=1jDor3-000F4a-4W)
Mar 19 13:18:38 toastmastersclubs sendmail[29187]: 02JDIaUT029182: to=<tm@markhenkelspeaker.com>, ctladdr=<server@toastmastersclubs.org> (501/502), delay=00:00:02, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=181394, relay=markhenkelspeaker.com. [67.227.221.50], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (OK id=1jEv4I-000QYx-9B)
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Who is host.thestandardbearer.com 72.52.197.93 they are blocked as spammers and are processing your email not your server markhenkelspeaker.com 67.227.221.50 which we unblocked.
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This is the lates from my own techs in tryng to telnet your site.

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I attempted to connect to their network from my local machine and had no issues:

$ telnet toastmastersclubs.org 25
Trying 50.19.253.65...
Connected to toastmastersclubs.org.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 toastmastersclubs.org ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.4/8.14.4; Thu, 19 Mar 2020 17:19:28 GMT

When trying to connect from the server I get the below result:

root@host:[~]: telnet toastmastersclubs.org 25
Trying 50.19.253.65...

The IP address of the server is 72.52.197.93. Please let me know if this information helps them track this down.

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Thanks.

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The IP address of the server is 72.52.197.93. Please let me know if this information helps them track this down.


Brian notes above that this IP address is blocked as a spammer.
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I have unblocked 72.52.197.93 but it can be blocked again at anytime if we start receiving spam from the IP again.
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