TOPIC:

When I go to print out the multiple sign up sheets I find that the meeting's speakers are missing and in their place are listed the speech evaluators! My agendas are all fine with the correct people in the correct roles. When I click on the legacy XLS version, everything is fine. Is there anything that I can do to correct this as I want to use the multiple sheets as my forward plan? Hoping someone can help.
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To appear on the sign up sheet they have to be marked as roles a member can sign up for.

I see the speakers and evaluators showing correctly. Which ones are you seeing incorrectly?

Hi Brian,

This is what I see when I go to the multiple sign up sheets

Toastmaster takes charge of the meeting
Laugh of the day / Word of the day
speech #1
speech #2
speech #3
Table Topics questions
evaluator #1
evaluator #2
Timer's report
Grammarian's report
Harkmaster's questions
General Evaluator

all the roles are marked for members to sign up. On the multiple sign up sheet (see above) , there are no speech evaluator roles showing up. Instead the people signed up to be the evaluators show up in the speech roles and the people signed up for the speeches are not shown at all. As I said in my earlier email, when I view the legacy version, all the roles are correct, including the speakers.

I see people signed up for the evaluator roles


Role Meeting 1 Meeting 2 Meeting 3 Meeting 4 Meeting 5
2014-03-04 2014-03-18 2014-04-01 2014-04-15 2014-05-06
evaluator #1 Andrew W. Mitchell, CTM Bill Burley, ACS, ALB Zachary Nelles Linda Burley, DTM
evaluator #2 Zachary Nelles Peter Supernak Virna White

What Browser and version are you using?

Hi Brian
I am not really computer literate so when you say browser are you referring to internet explorer? I have windows 7 professional.

yes Internet Explorer, please look at this Doc and your cookie settings.

support.toastmastersclubs.org/doc/item/i...orer-cookie-settings

Hi Brian
the evaluators you can see are actually the table topic evaluators. If you look at the speech#1 on meeting one it lists peter supernak as the speaker but he is actually the speech evaluator!
I will look at the cookies now.

The problem is the titles are both the same the system only sees speech #1

Prepared speech #1
Prepared speech #2

Evaluator prepared speech #1
Evaluator prepared speech #1

You need to put either and underline or   between the words Speech and Prepared (ie. Prepared_speech #1)

Thank you so much Brian. It is great being able to come to this forum to get solutions to those things that drive me mad.

Hello Brian, sorry to butt in here but Linda and I have been working through this and I am totally confused....

I assume if we have agenda items Speech#1 Speech#2

Then the system would allow us to have agenda items Evaluator Speech#1 and Evaluator Speech#2 ??

Pretty standard TM requirement I would have thought.....We don't really mind what we call each segment we just want segments slots for 3 speakers and also 3 evaluators for those speakers

Could you please show me what you would type to achieve this? (Big Letters and non joined up writing please )

Cheers

Brian (also)

No. The issue has to do with how the system currently interprets numbered roles.

First you need to have a space between the # and the word to the left of it for it be recognized as a numbered role.

Second, the system looks only at the single word immediately to the left of the # to determine how to group the role title with other numbered role titles.

So... for example, from the way the system interprets numbered role titles, Evaluator Speech #1 is equivalent to Speech #1. It does not matter that the word Evaluator is there, since it is not considered.

However, the trick to deal with this this is to realize that the system is looking at words based on the spaces between them. Therefore, if you instead compare Evaluator_Speech #1 and Speech #1, those are different roles, because of the underscore used instead of the space. Alternately, you can use a non-breaking space (Alt-255 on keyboard) which looks exactly like a normal space but is treated like a word character instead of a space. For example. Evaluator Speech #1 contains a non-breaking space between Evaluator and Speech (I put it there trust me) so from the systems perspective, the single "word" to the left of the #1 is Evaluator Speech.

I will probably make this work a lot simpler later this year (I did not program this myself).

hello Steve,

Thank you for a very detailed explanation; it all begins to make sense especially when read with your recent post on a similar topic.

Problem hopefully solved

Thanks again

Brian