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Problem with Club e-mail addresses

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8 years 7 months ago #60117 by Damian
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Hi,

I am the webmaster for Arun Speakers club. Club number etc should now be in my Signature.

We are having a problem with Club e-mail addresses, as follows:

When clicking on a given e-mail address in the club e-mail address list a new pop-up appears. The pop-up gives a choice to either send the e-mail via 'website e-mailer' or via systems e-mail client.

The problem we are having is with website e-mailer option. My colleagues had let me know that e-mails via this method to members@arunspeakers.net were not getting through.

I ran some tests using the friends@arunspeakers and admin@arunspeakers (because I did not want to send a series of test e-mails to club members). When I send them via 'website e-mailer' the e-mail does not arrive in the intended recipient's e-mail (nor spam folder). I do however receive an acknowledgement e-mail that the e-mail was sent. The confirmation e-mail is worded as follows:

(Confirming e-mail)
The following email (w/ any variable replacements) was sent to:
friends@arunspeakers.net


It seems that when 'systems e-mail client' is correctly used it works fine, similarly if I copy and paste the e-mail address manually into my e-mail account it also works fine.

I would be grateful for any information.

Regards

Damian

Webmaster www.arunspeakers.net (Club Number 7298)
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8 years 7 months ago #60120 by Brian
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Please only post your questions once

Some email systems don't like when you email yourself

the server has sent you lots of email add this email to your allowed list server@toastmastersclubs.org

Jan 5 00:08:39 toastmastersclubs sendmail[11507]: v0508d2v011504: to=<perrydamian@hotmail.com>, ctladdr= (501/502), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=130765, relay=mx2.hotmail.com. [104.44.194.231], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent ( <201701050008.v0508d2v011504@toastmastersclubs.org> Queued mail for delivery)
Jan 5 00:08:40 toastmastersclubs sendmail[11511]: v0508d2x011504: to=<perrydamian@hotmail.com>, ctladdr= (501/502), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=130930, relay=mx3.hotmail.com. [65.54.188.72], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent ( <201701050008.v0508d2x011504@toastmastersclubs.org> Queued mail for delivery)
Jan 5 00:15:12 toastmastersclubs sendmail[14380]: v050FB5J014377: to=<perrydamian@hotmail.com>, ctladdr= (501/502), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=125976, relay=mx2.hotmail.com. [65.55.92.184], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent ( <201701050015.v050FB5J014377@toastmastersclubs.org> Queued mail for delivery)
Jan 5 01:41:20 toastmastersclubs sendmail[15941]: v051fJKW015938: to=<perrydamian@hotmail.com>, ctladdr= (501/502), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=124810, relay=mx4.hotmail.com. [65.55.37.72], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent ( <201701050141.v051fJKW015938@toastmastersclubs.org> Queued mail for delivery)
Jan 5 01:41:25 toastmastersclubs sendmail[16014]: v051fNMu016009: to=<perrydamian@hotmail.com>, ctladdr= (501/502), delay=00:00:02, xdelay=00:00:02, mailer=esmtp, pri=124801, relay=mx1.hotmail.com. [65.55.37.72], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent ( <201701050141.v051fNMu016009@toastmastersclubs.org> Queued mail for delivery)
Jan 5 08:02:20 toastmastersclubs sendmail[24644]: v0582JM0024641: to=<perrydamian@hotmail.com>, ctladdr= (501/502), delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=124857, relay=mx4.hotmail.com. [104.44.194.231], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent ( <201701050802.v0582JM0024641@toastmastersclubs.org> Queued mail for delivery)
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8 years 7 months ago #60121 by Damian
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Hi Brian,

Thanks for your message. However, I retested and still had the same problem. I changed the e-mail address so that I was no longer e-mailing myself, and I whitelisted server@toastmastersclubs.org. I am still getting the same problem ie the e-mail gets through if I send it via system e-mail client, but not if I send it via website e-mailer.

Webmaster www.arunspeakers.net (Club Number 7298)
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8 years 7 months ago - 8 years 7 months ago #60122 by SteveTheTechie
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Ok, the pop-up is a new mailto handling feature because people were not getting mailto link's set up correctly in the past.

Let me do some additional testing on the members list.
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8 years 7 months ago - 8 years 7 months ago #60130 by SteveTheTechie
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Ok, I think have this working as intended. Damian, would you be willing to do a few tests on your end for me? If so, here is what I would like you to check:

1. The new pop-up should only work when you are logged in as a member or admin. Otherwise, you should just get routed to the standard system email client. Reason: The system only knows an email address (for the from address) for you when you are logged in as a member or admin.

2. Click on an email link that is going to an FTH list email address. (like before) In that case, the code should set the "From" and "Reply-To" addresses to be your email address as listed in your member profile.

3. Either on an existing custom page or a dummy custom page that you create, put a mailto link there that goes to a non-FTH email address (e.g., another member or a 2nd email address that you may have). Save the page and try clicking on that link from outside the admin console. The code should set the "From" address to be the server address (to prevent the email getting flagged as fraudulant/phishing) and the "Reply-To" address should be your email address. (so you still get replies).

The above works for me, but I would like to see someone else also tell me it works as intended for them. Thanks! :cheer:
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8 years 7 months ago - 8 years 7 months ago #60138 by Damian
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Hi Steve,

Thanks for your reply. I set up a custom page, ( www.arunspeakers.net/test.html ) and a link to a not FTH e-mail, ( Johndavies77777777 '@' outlook.com ).

It worked as you described, and both e-mails got through to the e-mail account (albeit the admin one went to the spam account).

Does this mean that in theory e-mails to members should now also get through.

I go away for a few days this evening, but happy to do any more tests you suggest once I am back.

Thanks

Damian

Webmaster www.arunspeakers.net (Club Number 7298)
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