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Remove a member from the "Crowd-Sourced" Email Black List
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Remove a member from the "Crowd-Sourced" Email Black List
4 years 2 weeks ago
A valued member was listed in the FreeToasthost ""Crowd-Sourced" Email Black List under Email & Contact Forms likely by another club. How do our club officers or s/he remove this email address from this blacklist? We've added the valued member's email address to our white list in case it overrides the blacklist.
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Re: Remove a member from the "Crowd-Sourced" Email Black List
4 years 2 weeks ago
1) if we don't know whom you are talking about we cannot answer your qiestion.
2) White list overrides for your club only.
2) White list overrides for your club only.
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4 years 2 weeks ago
Thanks for the helpful update. White list works for our club. The valued member would like to protect his/her privacy due to past experience. How can s/he message his/her contact info privately somehow for your team to troubleshoot removing him/her from the blacklist?
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4 years 1 week ago
We do not remove anyone from the black list, if another club put them there they will stay there until the club removes them. And no we will not tell you which club blacklisted them, your member will have to figure that out as your member knows who they have emailed in the past.
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4 years 1 week ago - 4 years 1 week ago
Thanks for the clarification. However, I've witnessed some clubs abuse admin privileges due to bias, conflicts of interest, etc. Thus, it seems unfair that innocent members could be blacklisted from all Toastmasters clubs due to an admin abusing this authority for his/her club.
I also understand the value of transparency. However, some valued members have had their identities stolen, abused, etc. Based on what the Pathways project on Building a Social Media Presence teaches us on privacy, we should not be revealing names, email addresses, and other info for web crawlers, hackers, etc. Thus, there should be some way for these valued members to communicate on sensitive or complex matters without revealing their contact info for your team to troubleshoot the black list issues accordingly.
It also seems that clubs should only be able to white and black list members for their club. Likewise, if FTH gives an abusive admin the right to black list an innocent member from all clubs, there should be a system of checks and balances for victims to report the club and/or admin for preventing this from recurring for more innocent members and potentially removing themselves from black lists to communicate with fellow Toastmasters as a valued members by others in the club (regardless of an admin's preferences and power).
Then, FTH may have more of a balanced, holistic perspective for deciding whether the email address in question belongs in the "Crowd-Sourced" Email Black List or the admin is abusing their authority. Moreover, it makes sense if FreeToastHost (FTH) witnesses bad behavior across multiple clubs to add these email addresses to the Crowd-Sourced Email Black List. Unlike FTH, clubs don't have access to this data to warrant having this privilege act beyond their club except to report these individuals for FTH to decide and update this "Crowd-Sourced" email black list.
I also understand the value of transparency. However, some valued members have had their identities stolen, abused, etc. Based on what the Pathways project on Building a Social Media Presence teaches us on privacy, we should not be revealing names, email addresses, and other info for web crawlers, hackers, etc. Thus, there should be some way for these valued members to communicate on sensitive or complex matters without revealing their contact info for your team to troubleshoot the black list issues accordingly.
It also seems that clubs should only be able to white and black list members for their club. Likewise, if FTH gives an abusive admin the right to black list an innocent member from all clubs, there should be a system of checks and balances for victims to report the club and/or admin for preventing this from recurring for more innocent members and potentially removing themselves from black lists to communicate with fellow Toastmasters as a valued members by others in the club (regardless of an admin's preferences and power).
Then, FTH may have more of a balanced, holistic perspective for deciding whether the email address in question belongs in the "Crowd-Sourced" Email Black List or the admin is abusing their authority. Moreover, it makes sense if FreeToastHost (FTH) witnesses bad behavior across multiple clubs to add these email addresses to the Crowd-Sourced Email Black List. Unlike FTH, clubs don't have access to this data to warrant having this privilege act beyond their club except to report these individuals for FTH to decide and update this "Crowd-Sourced" email black list.
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4 years 1 week ago
The admins are not usually the ones who black list email addresses. It is the members receiving email they consider to be spam and click the 'Is this spam' link at the bottom of the email.
Your member obviously sent an email that the recipient considered as spam. Your member will have to contact that person and have them remove the spam designation from that clubs black list.
FTH will not override.
Your member obviously sent an email that the recipient considered as spam. Your member will have to contact that person and have them remove the spam designation from that clubs black list.
FTH will not override.
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