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Error sending e-mail using FTH officer alias

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9 years 1 month ago #57282 by NotLiable
Error sending e-mail using FTH officer alias was created by NotLiable
When I send e-mail from the address I have in my profile to my new SAA using his FTH alias, I receive two e-mail messages from FTH:

You do not have the right permissions to send an e-mail to this e-mail address (saa@affinitytoastmasters.org) from toastmasterart@verizon.net . Be sure your "From" address in your e-mail client is the same as your address in your toastmastersclubs.org member profile.

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You do not have the right permissions to send an e-mail to this e-mail address (saa@affinitytoastmasters.org) from toastmasterart@verizon.net . Be sure your "From" address in your e-mail client is the same as your address in your toastmastersclubs.org member profile.

Please note: We do not support the use of BCC. If you are sending to an email address on this server using BCC please re-address using To or CC and try again.

I'm not using BCC (found that out the hard way many moons ago) so I'm left scratching my head here.

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9 years 1 month ago #57284 by RogerM
Replied by RogerM on topic Error sending e-mail using FTH officer alias
Art,

The SAA for Infinity has checked the box "Do NOT create a club officer email address for me "
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9 years 1 month ago #57286 by SteveTheTechie
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RogerM wrote: Art,

The SAA for Infinity has checked the box "Do NOT create a club officer email address for me "


Yeah, right now, the email list server is not designed to tell you in a bounce message that a club officer has declined to receive emails via their officer email address... I am not sure that we should create new bounce message for that, even though the current situation does cause some confusion. :unsure:
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9 years 1 month ago #57290 by NotLiable
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SAA says box was checked inadvertently, so that's corrected and all is well. Thanks, Roger, as the confusion to which Steve refers defintely had me baffled, as I'd seen that message in the past when I had used the BCC method of sending. My $0.02 is that there should be a unique (i.e. informative) bounce message, otherwise folks will be scratching their heads, as I was.

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9 years 1 month ago - 9 years 1 month ago #57291 by SteveTheTechie
Replied by SteveTheTechie on topic Error sending e-mail using FTH officer alias

NotLiable wrote: SAA says box was checked inadvertently, so that's corrected and all is well. Thanks, Roger, as the confusion to which Steve refers defintely had me baffled, as I'd seen that message in the past when I had used the BCC method of sending. My $0.02 is that there should be a unique (i.e. informative) bounce message, otherwise folks will be scratching their heads, as I was.

Art


Well, mainly this is due to how the lists of valid To: email addresses are created for a particular club. We do generate lists of valid email lists and aliases to check against, but we do *not* generate lists of email list addresses that have been disabled. (e.g., officer email aliases, the "contact" email address, etc.) Therefore, if the email list server code detects that a To address is not in the lists of valid email addresses, it does not have any more information than that.

A key consideration is whether we should provide additional information. Part of why we don't is because we do not to provide much information to spammers about how the email system works. In other words, a certain degree of terseness and vagueness in the bounce messages is targeted at throwing spammers off.

So, basically, it is the old convenience vs security debate. Do you want more convenience and clarity in the bounce messages or do you want more email security? :?
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